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Trying to clear my name

Trying to clear my name

Trying to clear my name

Trying to clear my name

by **FeaRM** » 10 Dec 2011, 01:30

Hey Lorc guild. Im just posting this because Nessa directed me here. A few weeks ago, I was accused by 2 of your members of bagjumping their gypsum bag in arius. I thought we had settled the dispute that day but I guess we didnt and it came back to bite me in the butt. I just want to say one thing before I post the logs: I am not a bagjumper. I have never bagjumped anyone in this game, I have never scammed anyone since I started playing a few years ago. I have nothing against your guild. I might have my dispute with malaki about the invance yesterday but that doesnt mean ive ever taken anything from anyone in your guild.

So this is the story. I was harving in Arius one one side of the mine while silvermane and chopper were harving on the other side. I was semi-afk harving while watching a show so i wasnt fixed to my screen the whole time. At some point, i find chopper asking me where his bag went and i told him honestly i didnt know. I will post the chat logs from when i started harvesting. I can harv up to 80-82 gyp before i am overloaded. You can look at the times i was harving and getting overloaded and you can do the math how much gyp i had in my bag. also, look at the time stamps. could i have really carried 2k gyp from one side of the mine to the other in 3 mins? anyways, i dont want to start a dispute and i want to say again that I have nothing against your guild, I just dont want to be called a bagjumper and I would like to clear my name, that is all.

Here are the logs:

[21:51:20] To Arius

[21:51:26] [Fabled @ 6]: Page Not FoundThe page you requested is no longer available, or cannot be found. Please double-check the URL

[21:51:38] [Wizzy @ 6]: gratz

[21:51:39] Welcome to Arius Magic Shop!

[21:52:12] [_raH_ @ 3]: trade 10k sulfur for 10k coal, pm me.

[21:52:16] [Quesar @ 6]: I use ssh when I travel. That way my EL password doesn't transmit plain text on an open wifi network

[21:52:26] [Kricket @ 3]: Buying Damaged Red Dragon Greave. PM me

[21:52:31] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[21:53:00] [Dipi @ 6]: yep...it should be crypted

[21:53:01] You have entered a small tunnel.

[21:53:40] [Wizzy @ 6]: yes, net crackers wet dream, spending days and weeks trying to collect your el password

[21:53:44] [Learner @ 6]: I've been thinkin about that as an extension od my proxy service, but not enough of a market

[21:53:44] [Leonard @ 6]: Lying awake at night I wipe the sweat from my brow, but it's not the fear 'cos I'd rather go now. Trying to visualise the horrors that will lay ahead; the desert sand mound a burial ground.

[21:53:56] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[21:54:03] Silvermane: hi

[21:54:09] FeaRM: hey

[21:54:11] [Dipi @ 6]: well...software security add to the quality of the game

[21:54:13] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[21:54:43] [Wizzy @ 6]: have you ever tried to crack a system password?

[21:54:51] [Popeye @ 6]: yes

[21:55:02] [Wizzy @ 6]: and how long did it take?

[21:55:07] [Popeye @ 6]: not long

[21:55:17] [Popeye @ 6]: password crackers are nice

[21:55:25] [Dipi @ 6]: wizzy...you can get it with a packages copier

[21:55:34] [Dipi @ 6]: or something like that

[21:55:37] Too heavy, you are overloaded.

[21:55:38] You stopped harvesting.

[21:55:46] [Dipi @ 6]: a guildie discovered it past week

[21:55:52] [Wizzy @ 6]: sure, of course, anything is possible

[21:55:57] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[21:56:18] [Wizzy @ 6]: but what is the likely hood of a stranger out there, trying to hack your el accont?

[21:56:37] [Quesar @ 6]: greater than 0

[21:56:41] You are too far away from the door.

[21:56:45] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[21:56:50] [Learner @ 6]: actually, for my personal proxy I was thinking of combining multiple connectyions into a single compressed and encrypted link so the entire stream would be

[21:56:55] [Wizzy @ 6]: yeah, so is loto 649

[21:57:16] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[21:57:18] [Dipi @ 6]: "your brother" and transfer your sto to his char...i saw many of those stories in ban section :tongue:

[21:57:21] [PM from Silvermane: is Ozmon on?]

[21:57:31] [Learner @ 6]: encrypted, and at the same time the mods would have an additional better way to verify multiple machines at one site (not proof of mult people, but better)

[21:57:36] [Wizzy @ 6]: yes, but those passwords are shared

[21:57:42] [PM to Silvermane: saw him on 30 mins ago]

[21:57:43] [Nova @ 6]: http://xkcd.com/708/

[21:57:52] [Kricket @ 6]: lol

[21:58:16] [Learner @ 6]: the only cases of stolen passwords so far were either shared, a key logger, or just too dumb and easy to guess

[21:58:24] [PM from Silvermane: if you see him again, let him know we do a gyp harv party with Marvin next day I hope plz]

[21:58:44] [Dipi @ 6]: but closing an open door would hurt

[21:58:51] [Dipi @ 6]: ?

[21:59:02] [PM from Silvermane: everyone hates this crap]

[21:59:07] [Learner @ 6]: I know, which is also why I've been looking into 3rd party solutions

[21:59:08] [PM to Silvermane: will do]

[21:59:12] [PM from Silvermane: ty]

[21:59:17] [PM to Silvermane: is he off atm?]

[21:59:27] [PM to Silvermane: i mean does his pm work?]

[21:59:29] [PM from Silvermane: I can't IG yet]

[21:59:33] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[21:59:42] [PM from Silvermane: doh...will try]

[21:59:43] [Dipi @ 6]: iirc i saw a post about this issue in forums

[21:59:54] Invalid syntax: Please use: "/playername message"

[21:59:54] [WeaverDAS @ 6]: I thought your password had to be the same as your character name...

[21:59:54] [csiga @ 6]: is everyone password is s3cr3t?

[21:59:54] [Quesar @ 6]: well, if you have a system you can ssh to, you can encrypt between you and there at least

[21:59:58] [PM to Silvermane:

]

[22:00:01] You have entered a small tunnel.

[22:00:13] [Popeye @ 6]: always, weaver

[22:00:16] [Popeye @ 6]: always

[22:00:17] [Quesar @ 6]: I don't worry too much about on the backbone, but local networks, especially open wifi is concerning to me

[22:00:34] [Learner @ 6]: open wifi should be avoided for everything

[22:00:40] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[22:00:46] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:00:54] You found 9 coins.

[22:00:55] You stopped harvesting.

[22:01:00] [Wizzy @ 6]: When your nearest neighbour is a mile away, open wifi is np :wink:

[22:01:04] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:01:15] [csiga @ 6]: is wpa2 can be considered safe?

[22:01:18] [Quesar @ 6]: when you're in a hotel? Or at a convention?

[22:01:20] You gained 10 extra harvesting exp.

[22:01:20] You stopped harvesting.

[22:01:20] [Learner @ 6]: ever hear of the pringles can antenna?

[22:01:28] [Dipi @ 6]: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.p...ndpost&p=537148

[22:01:38] [Tork_Unib @ 6]: wok-tenna too

[22:01:42] [Wizzy @ 6]: Yeah Bill and the booth babe are hunting the hotel for my el password

[22:01:48] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:02:28] #GM from guild_bot: ### LOOKIN4ANANGEL LOGGED ON ###

[22:02:47] [Goofy @ 3]: pc fe

[22:02:50] You gained 23 extra harvesting exp.

[22:02:50] You stopped harvesting.

[22:02:53] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:02:55] #GM from Lookin4AnAngel: hello everyone

[22:02:59] [csiga @ 6]: are some EL passwords stolen?

[22:03:03] Too heavy, you are overloaded.

[22:03:03] You stopped harvesting.

[22:03:05] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[22:03:12] [csiga @ 6]: or just a general discussion here?

[22:03:25] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[22:03:35] [Dipi @ 6]: not a specific issue afaik

[22:03:40] [Trom @ 3]: 4-4.5

[22:03:44] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:03:51] [Goofy @ 3]: ty

[22:04:13] [csiga @ 6]: thats good

[22:04:49] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:05:05] [Quesar @ 6]: tcp dump doesn't have a "exclude EL parameter". It gets everything

[22:05:15] You have entered a small tunnel.

[22:05:19] [csiga @ 6]: also not so safe to connect to the server via the dns name - can be spoofed too

[22:05:39] [WiFi @ 6]: wpa2 is the newest in wifi security.. better than WEP

[22:05:54] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[22:06:01] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:06:08] You found 7 coins.

[22:06:09] You stopped harvesting.

[22:06:13] #GM from guild_bot: ### KRAKEN LOGGED OFF ###

[22:06:19] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:07:32] FeaRM found a bag of gold, getting 9 gold coins

[22:07:33] You stopped harvesting.

[22:07:43] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:07:55] Your harvesting experience limit for this hour expired, you won't get any more harvesting EXP until the next hour.

[22:07:56] You gained 26 extra harvesting exp.

[22:07:57] You stopped harvesting.

[22:08:00] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:08:04] [Shujral @ 6]: Who has custom clothing?

[22:08:15] [Popeye @ 6]: hatwood

[22:08:34] [Smurf @ 6]: Has not does.

[22:09:13] You stopped harvesting.

[22:09:15] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:10:31] You gained 23 extra harvesting exp.

[22:10:31] You stopped harvesting.

[22:10:36] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:10:47] You stopped harvesting.

[22:10:49] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:10:49] [Dipi @ 6]: good night EL

[22:10:53] [Shujral @ 6]: Nighty

[22:10:54] [xXOutLawXx @ 6]: nite mate

[22:11:10] You found 8 coins.

[22:11:11] You stopped harvesting.

[22:11:20] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:11:50] [calif @ 3]: trading 50 hydro ore for your 54 s2e <-------GREAT DEAL

[22:12:04] You found 8 coins.

[22:12:04] You stopped harvesting.

[22:12:07] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:12:15] You gained 20 extra harvesting exp.

[22:12:16] You stopped harvesting.

[22:12:18] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:12:28] You stopped harvesting.

[22:12:30] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:12:32] [Shujral @ 3]: Selling CoL, ELE, EWE. Buying Coal.

[22:12:52] You found 8 coins.

[22:12:52] You stopped harvesting.

[22:12:54] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:13:10] FeaRM's Pickaxe just broke... So sad..

[22:13:10] Your Pickaxe has been destroyed

[22:13:10] You stopped harvesting.

[22:13:19] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:14:06] You stopped harvesting.

[22:14:08] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:14:14] You found 5 coins.

[22:14:14] You stopped harvesting.

[22:14:17] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:14:28] A cavern wall collapsed on FeaRM, and hit for 20 points. If there is no cavern wall nearby, can you imagine how unlucky this person was?!

[22:14:28] You stopped harvesting.

[22:14:30] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:14:35] You gained 30 extra harvesting exp.

[22:14:35] You stopped harvesting.

[22:14:37] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:15:15] You found 9 coins.

[22:15:16] You stopped harvesting.

[22:15:17] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:15:50] You stopped harvesting.

[22:15:51] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:16:41] CHOPPER: did you take our bag

[22:16:50] You found 10 coins.

[22:16:50] You stopped harvesting.

[22:17:12] [PM from CHOPPER: did you take our bag]

[22:17:54] [thursagan @ 3]: Selling: 14 steel two edged swords: 1400 gc ea: 19600 gc total

[22:18:08] [PM to CHOPPER: no]

[22:18:24] FeaRM: u can check my abg if u want

[22:18:27] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:18:36] CHOPPER: no i beleive you

[22:18:53] You found 9 coins.

[22:18:53] You stopped harvesting.

[22:18:55] CHOPPER: my friend is knonvict1

[22:19:01] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:19:12] You gained 25 extra harvesting exp.

[22:19:13] You stopped harvesting.

[22:19:19] [PM to CHOPPER: who is he?]

[22:19:21] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:19:24] You gained 22 extra harvesting exp.

[22:19:25] You stopped harvesting.

[22:19:27] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:19:33] [PM from CHOPPER: he one of your guild]

[22:19:42] [PM to CHOPPER: oh k]

[22:20:02] You stopped harvesting.

[22:20:07] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:20:22] [PM from CHOPPER: i have helped your guild lots]

[22:20:32] [PM to CHOPPER: cool]

[22:20:43] [PM from CHOPPER: my bag must have poofed away]

[22:20:46] A cavern wall collapsed on FeaRM, and hit for 34 points. If there is no cavern wall nearby, can you imagine how unlucky this person was?!

[22:20:47] You stopped harvesting.

[22:20:58] [PM to CHOPPER: idk who took ur bag but i thought u guys were done]

[22:21:02] [PM to CHOPPER: im afk harving]

[22:21:05] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:21:09] [PM to CHOPPER: didnt see anyone]

[22:21:17] [PM to CHOPPER: how much u have in it]

[22:21:18] [PM from CHOPPER: ok thank you]

[22:21:29] [PM from CHOPPER: about 2000]

[22:21:34] [PM to CHOPPER: :&40;

]

[22:21:46] You gained 30 extra harvesting exp.

[22:21:46] You stopped harvesting.

[22:21:49] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:22:01] Too heavy, you are overloaded.

[22:22:01] You stopped harvesting.

[22:22:05] You started to harvest Gypsum.

Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2011-11-22 22:22:08 localtime (Eastern Standard Time)

[22:23:32] Too heavy, you are overloaded.

[22:23:32] You stopped harvesting.

[22:23:42] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:24:58] You stopped harvesting.

[22:25:00] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:25:01] You stopped harvesting.

[22:25:04] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:25:44] You gained 22 extra harvesting exp.

[22:25:44] You stopped harvesting.

[22:25:49] You started to harvest Gypsum.

[22:26:09] You stopped harvesting.

[22:26:12] Sorry, you can't carry this, you are overloaded!

[22:26:17] You are in Arius - Arius Mines [245,250]

[22:26:18] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[22:26:35] You are too far away from the door.

[22:26:38] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[22:26:59] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:27:54] [Shujral @ 6]: Alch 78 \o

[22:28:02] [Sk8erjosh @ 6]: grats

[22:28:06] [Nimir_Raj @ 6]: Congratulations.

[22:28:07] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:28:27] [Shujral @ 6]: Thank you thank you

[22:28:33] You have entered a small tunnel.

[22:29:16] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[22:29:27] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[22:29:45] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[22:30:05] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:31:08] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:31:35] You have entered a small tunnel.

[22:31:41] [PM from Silvermane: Pray we never meet on pk map you slime ball]

[22:31:50] [PM to Silvermane: why?]

[22:32:14] [PM from Silvermane: for bag jumping]

[22:32:16] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[22:32:22] FeaRM: i didnt bj

[22:32:24] FeaRM: wtf

[22:32:39] CHOPPER: he said he not take our bag

[22:32:46] FeaRM: not ur bag

[22:32:52] FeaRM: i harved this last 30 mins

[22:32:53] Silvermane: you just started to hav and suddenly you have exactly what we are missing?

[22:33:02] FeaRM: dude ive been harving for a while

[22:33:07] FeaRM: let me send u logs

[22:33:26] Silvermane: give to him chopper,

[22:33:28] FeaRM: where u get el logs with time stamp?

[22:33:37] Silvermane: I take you at your word

[22:33:45] CHOPPER: he not take our bag i beleive him

[22:33:49] FeaRM: dont accuse me of bjping

[22:33:51] Silvermane: me too, sorry

[22:33:54] FeaRM: its ok

[22:34:08] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[22:34:28] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[22:34:51] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:35:26] #GM from FeaRM: weirdest thing happened, just got accused of bjumping people in arius

[22:36:01] #GM from FeaRM: been semi afk harving for 30 mins, their bag poofs with 2k in it, when i get off my bag i got 800 and they said its their bag lol

[22:36:14] #GM from FeaRM: [PM from Silvermane: Pray we never meet on pk map you slime ball]

[22:36:18] #GM from FeaRM: wtf

[22:36:42] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

[22:36:47] #GM from hock: was your bag close to his?

[22:36:56] #GM from FeaRM: no on the otehr side

[22:37:27] #GM from FeaRM: i was there bag harving while they were carrying from bag, then chopper came back and their bag wasnt there

[22:37:28] #GM from hock: hmm he must be high )

[22:37:38] #GM from FeaRM: i was smi afk harving so didnt see bag poof

[22:37:44] You have entered a small tunnel.

[22:37:52] [Khrull @ 3]: buy used tit helm and steel helm pm me please

[22:38:21] #GM from FeaRM: when i got to 800 i started hauling to sto and they went to check my abg and it had 720

[22:38:50] #GM from FeaRM: chopper told me before his bag was 2k when he lost it, now silvermane says my abg has EXACTLY the same amount of gyps as his did when it poofed

[22:38:53] #GM from FeaRM: just lol

[22:39:11] #GM from hock: thats why i have always said they should put names on db

[22:39:17] You use the stick to move the stone from the tracks, and use the mine cart to get to the mine safely.

[22:39:29] You take the mine cart back downhill.

[22:39:37] #GM from FeaRM: yah they should

[22:39:47] You entered a small underground tunnel.

[22:40:07] Welcome to Arius Magic School!

I am really sorry for the length of the logs and I hope i have clarified the situation. Again, iam sorry for the misunderstanding, but I am serious when i say this, I did not take your bag. Thank you for reading this

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